1974 Double Cab Project

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Re: 1973 Double Cab Project

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Ign. switch (term 50) is wired directly from starter term (50) directly,not fused. although,a fuse would be a good idea.. HL switch (term 30) is powered from ign switch (term 30) directly. HL's are fused after the HL switch (4 fuses, l,r and HB,l,r) VW started powering HL's after ign in 71,Porsche in 70. this was done so that when you turn off ign,HL's also go off. Can't accidentally leave HL's on.
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Re: 1974 Double Cab Project

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Thanks for your help.
So the wire from terminal 50 on the starter comes straight up to the ignition switch bypassing the fuse block. This appears to be the black and red striped wire that goes into the 8 terminal connector. Then a solid red wire goes from the ignition switch to terminal 30 of the headlight switch. Is that correct?
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1967 Beetle "Little Tud"
1968 Black Double Cab "The Black Pearl"
1970 Lotus White Single Cab "Big Tud"
1976 Sage Green Westfalia "Sweet Pickle"

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Correct :)
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Thank you again for you help. So reviewing the diagram for the ignition wiring it seems that the black and yellow wire goes from the switch to fuse #10 and the black wire goes to fuse #1. I cannot see where the brown and blue striped wire goes. I would think it is a ground. Is it a ground? if so where is it supposed to attach?
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1967 Beetle "Little Tud"
1968 Black Double Cab "The Black Pearl"
1970 Lotus White Single Cab "Big Tud"
1976 Sage Green Westfalia "Sweet Pickle"

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don't see a brn/blu on my diagram. But,if it 31 from lite switch,follow it to the bottom track at the bottom of the diagram. should be a small circle with a # 11 is grnd connection on speedo. If it is brn and wht from term marked s it goes to s term on dimmer relay (J) on your diag.
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Sorry, I guess I should have clarified it is actually a wire coming from the ignition switch. The switch has 5 wires. The 1st 4 you helped me figure out, red/black to terminal 50, red to terminal 30, black and yellow to fuse #10 and black wire to fuse #1. I can't figure out where the brown/ blue striped wire goes.
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1967 Beetle "Little Tud"
1968 Black Double Cab "The Black Pearl"
1970 Lotus White Single Cab "Big Tud"
1976 Sage Green Westfalia "Sweet Pickle"

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Rob wrote:Sorry, I guess I should have clarified it is actually a wire coming from the ignition switch. The switch has 5 wires. The 1st 4 you helped me figure out, red/black to terminal 50, red to terminal 30, black and yellow to fuse #10 and black wire to fuse #1. I can't figure out where the brown/ blue striped wire goes.
Without looking at a diagram I am going to guess it goes to a second set of contacts on the drivers door switch and on to the key in buzzer.
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Re: 1973 Double Cab Project

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The br/bl wire is not on my diagram either. However,there is a terminal on the ign switch (narrow blade,bott left in pic) that is labeled P. I will look at some supliment diagrams and see if I can fine anything.
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Thank you both for looking into this. Researching on the Samba last night I found a couple of references to the brown/ blue wire as being a ground for the key buzzer that is activated with the insertion of the key into the ignition. They also indicated that there some funny colored wires on Brazilian Switches even at times a 6th grey and black wire. I looked again at the switch I installed and it is German made (one I purchased from West Coast Metrics about 20 years ago). I still cannot find it on the diagram coming off the ignition switch though. Maybe it goes to the relay/ buzzer on the fuse block?
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1967 Beetle "Little Tud"
1968 Black Double Cab "The Black Pearl"
1970 Lotus White Single Cab "Big Tud"
1976 Sage Green Westfalia "Sweet Pickle"

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Well,we hit submit at the same time :lol: Mine disappeared. Look at the 72 diagram. toolbox is prob correct and as I recall most times the narrow blade connectors are associated with door contact switches and interior lites and warning buzzers. If in doubt I think it would be fine to leave it off for now and see if buzzer and or interior lite works with door open,or warning buzzer works with ign on and door open. May want to leave it off anyway and not deal with annoying warning buzzer.
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