Brandon's 71 Westy

[Josh]

Brandon finally bit the bullet and got a bus! He had it towed to my house for a once over. The intake manifold boots were torn causing a terrible intake leak/no idle condition, and overall it just needed a good once over. Brandon replaced the intake boots, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, points, intake manifold gaskets, ignition coil, condenser, valve cover gaskets, and he went over the valve clearances. The carb is getting a good soaking, and will go on tomorrow. He also ordered some new Hankook RA08's from bus depot.

No bus enters my driveway without prompt engine removal


What a happy new bus owner!

Here's Brandon wrenching away..

[vw7266]

Looks awesome..dont screw it up and repaint it!

[SlashKirk]

I like it!
But will it make it for the weekend?
Good job guys

[CraigOnTheBoat]

That is one nice DISCO Bus,

[THINGE]

Probably won't make it for the Kelleys campout due to the sketchy tires and brake lines, but most likely Put-In-Bay if my work schedule allows it.

[Ken]

Looks awesome..dont screw it up and repaint it!

I agree, it's unique and besides, we need more blue busses.

[THINGE]

No way am I going to paint this Bus, the paint job is way too unique.

Once Josh and I finish up getting the essentials worked out so it is at least driveable, I'd like to thoroughly clean it inside and out. After that I think I'd like to repaint the top white. Also once it is home, I think I'll take the wheels and bumpers off and run those out to Creative Powdercoating in Elyria to have those done up in white as well. But first things first, I should probably go to the title bureau and get it over into my name.


PS: Oh yeah, those super ugly curtains and seats covers will be donated to Howie.

[Six Volt]

This is not legal advice so please don't take it as such. Talk to a lawyer if you want legal advice. This is only for informational purposes. Worse, it's taking this thread way off track.

"Recreational vehicles" and "motor homes", which are a form of "recreational vehicles", are defined as "motor vehicles" under Ohio law. Open containers are not permitted in motor vehicles under ORC 4301.62.

Are there exceptions?

First, let's look at the following definitions:

Ohio Revised Code Section 4501.01 (B) defines “Motor vehicle” and it means any vehicle, including mobile homes and recreational vehicles.

Ohio Revised Code Section 4501.01 (Q) defines “recreational vehicle” as a vehicular portable structure that meets all of the following conditions:

(1) It is designed for the sole purpose of recreational travel.

(2) It is not used for the purpose of engaging in business for profit.

(3) It is not used for the purpose of engaging in intrastate commerce.

(4) It is not used for the purpose of commerce as defined in 49 C.F.R. 383.5, as amended.

(5) It is not regulated by the public utilities commission pursuant to Chapter 4919., 4921., or 4923. of the Revised Code.

(6) It is classed as one of the following:

(b) “Motor home”, which means a self-propelled recreational vehicle that has no fifth wheel and is constructed with permanently installed facilities for cold storage, cooking and consuming of food, and for sleeping.

So, it would seem many vehicles, yes even a Howie vehicle, could be considered a "recreational vehicle", while a VW camper bus, properly equipped would meet the definition of a "recreational vehicle" under the "motor home" provision.

The question is; "Do these vehicles allow for open containers in the passenger area"?

Well, here's the relevant portions of Ohio's open container law:

4301.62 Open container prohibited; exceptions:

(A) As used in this section:

(1) “Chauffeured limousine” means a vehicle registered under section 4503.24 of the Revised Code.

(2) “Street,” “highway,” and “motor vehicle” have the same meanings as in section 4511.01 of the Revised Code.

(B) No person shall have in the person's possession an opened container of beer or intoxicating liquor in any of the following circumstances:

(1) In a state liquor store;

(2) Except as provided in division (C) of this section, on the premises of the holder of any permit issued by the division of liquor control;

(3) In any other public place;

(4) Except as provided in division (D) or (E) of this section, while operating or being a passenger in or on a motor vehicle on any street, highway, or other public or private property open to the public for purposes of vehicular travel or parking;

(5) Except as provided in division (D) or (E) of this section, while being in or on a stationary motor vehicle on any street, highway, or other public or private property open to the public for purposes of vehicular travel or parking.

Well, here's an exception:

(D) This section does not apply to a person who pays all or a portion of the fee imposed for the use of a chauffeured limousine pursuant to a prearranged contract, or the guest of the person, when all of the following apply:

(1) The person or guest is a passenger in the limousine.

(2) The person or guest is located in the limousine, but is not occupying a seat in the front compartment of the limousine where the operator of the limousine is located.

(3) The limousine is located on any street, highway, or other public or private property open to the public for purposes of vehicular travel or parking.

Interestingly, the State's of Washington, Kansas and Florida all have expres exceptions for "motor homes". Ohio has no exception.

Does it mean you can't do it in a motor home? I don't know because I can find no Ohio case directly on point. I did not check the Ohio Administrative Code or Ohio's vehicle licensing laws, so I am not aware if there could be other exceptions out there.

A chauffeured limo? Now that seems to have an exception. You draw your own conclusions.

[Six Volt]

Oh yea, back on point. I hate dual port manifolds and their "leaky boots". I think everyone should stay single!

[Ron]

How about that understated VW logo on the front. Someone must be wearing the larger original emblem on a chain around their neck.